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[CELTIC1CALEY3]

On 12/28/2024 at 12:01 PM, CaleyD said:

The car parks were acquired* by Morrison and Cameron from a third party, not the club, and they were NOT acquired from Tulloch, despite what has been reported.

More accurately, they took control of the company that held/holds the lease.

There was no transfer of lease, so no legal obligation for the company to be offered to the club. 

By definition there was an offer and acceptance with the transaction so some form of contract.  So did Ross Morrison, as a newly appointed Director of Inverness Caledonian Thistle Properties Limited, act in his capacity as a private individual, like Cameron at the transaction date, or did he act as Chairman of the football company? Given that the Company was using the football company address as its registered office he clearly needed the Club's permission.  The articles and memorandum date back to 2001 but surely the football club company needed to be involved in what was happening? Somebody else would have needed to take the chair when this was considered because Morrison could not be on both sides?

[CaleyD]

Ross Morrison bought in to it using his money and he, as a private individual, holds the interest there.

The fact he was also a club director has no legal baring on that, and gives the club no rights to have had any say/representation in the transaction.

The club gave up the master lease/s as part of the various moves that were taken around 2001 to remove almost £2.5 million of debt from the club.

[Charles Bannerman]

On 12/30/2024 at 7:58 PM, CaleyD said:

Ross Morrison bought in to it using his money and he, as a private individual, holds the interest there.

The fact he was also a club director has no legal baring on that, and gives the club no rights to have had any say/representation in the transaction.

The club gave up the master lease/s as part of the various moves that were taken around 2001 to remove almost £2.5 million of debt from the club.

I’m only catching up on these posts now and this one of Don’s, along with his previous one, look very much on the money (no pun intended).

I seem to remember that after Tulloch, round about 2017, offered to return to the club the assets it had acquired as part of its 2000-01 bail out, the fairly drawn out process appeared even more so in the case of the car park lease than the stadium itself. Indeed, there was very little clarity after that as to who actually owned the car park lease. That therefore begs the question - specifically to whom did Morrison and Cameron, both established dealers in land, pay money when they became owners of CT Properties and hence of the car park lease in August 2023. And if it wasn’t to the club, as part of ongoing efforts to assist cash flow, then why did they make the purchase at all since there would have been no benefit to the club? (Unless, of course the Magic Money Tree which the Battery Farm and other subsequently deceased schemes would have brought it all back into the club fold.)

The other part of Morrison’s interest is his completely separate £1.65M loan and the security attached to it. The Administrator has publicly questioned the validity of this Charge, but I’m sure it was created in the expectation that, in the event of default, Ross Morrison - who is listed at Companies House as a director of no fewer than 19 companies, mainly in the area of development - would have title to a large slice of the club’s assets in addition to his interest in the car park lease.

We also have to take account of the fact that it was to a large on under Ross Morrison’s watch at the club that eyewatering expenditure took place that contributed greatly to the level of indebtedness and the need to spend other people’s money.

I am not in any way alleging anything but I’m just not entirely comfortable with the fact that Ross Morrison departed after a spectacularly unsuccessful period as Chairman, leaving behind a situation of massive indebtedness and where he had an enormous hold on what is contained within the area originally leased from the Inverness Common Good Fund to allow Scottish League football to take place in Inverness.

[CELTIC1CALEY3]

On 12/31/2024 at 11:38 PM, Charles Bannerman said:

Ross Morrison - who is listed at Companies House as a director of no fewer than 19 companies

That is a lot of Companies from which disqualification, if considered, would be painful.  Not quite the same but recall what Dumbarton know.

[big cherly]

As the remaining details of the debt and leased land are finally laid bare the club finds itself in an insidious position with one person, Ross Morrison (the former Chairman no less), holding all the cards and ultimately the future survival /destiny of the club. Through his actions and acquisitions he has the club tied up like a ham joint in a butcher’s window for the world to see.  I don’t dispute RM poured a lot on money into the club and had to make some provision to mitigate the extent of loss. (Spoiler alert  – No board member /Chairman in my memory, enters into football expecting to make money).

 

As mentioned by others what grates me is deliberate action to make timely arrangements he knew could be punitive to the clubs existence if things went pear-shape, (which they spectacularly did). These actions (floating charge loan and ICTP buy-out), would have been done in full view or knowledge of the board, and either through ignorance, stupidity or just saying nothing never questioned whether this was done in the best interests of the club. Most have run to the hills for cover, but as things unwind they will not be forgotten.

 

We (the club), need the stadium to play in the league. We don’t have sufficient fans (3500-4000?) to finance a Championship level operation, so it appears any buyer for the club needs to include the purchase of a number of the ICTP land plots so none football revenue can be made to meet the running costs. ICTP (RM) foreseen this I expect, so can hold out to maximise this advantage to see what they can get in any arrangement or ‘deal’.

The only pressure I see we can put on RM is the threat to hand back the stadium to the Council and go elsewhere. i.e Value of land crashes.
 

The floating charge it seems we are stuck with – merely whether RM will hold out for the full 1.65M

 

Whilst he may have not done anything wrong (politician like), I return to would the actions be considered in any way as an infraction on the best interests of ICTFC that he was the Chairman at that time? 

 

Maybe he was just four steps ahead of everyone. No simple or cheap answers I fear.

bc

Edited January 5 by big cherly

[Charles Bannerman]

3 hours ago, big cherly said:

As the remaining details of the debt and leased land are finally laid bare the club finds itself in an insidious position with one person, Ross Morrison (the former Chairman no less), holding all the cards and ultimately the future survival /destiny of the club. Through his actions and acquisitions he has the club tied up like a ham joint in a butcher’s window for the world to see.  I don’t dispute RM poured a lot on money into the club and had to make some provision to mitigate the extent of loss. (Spoiler alert  – No board member /Chairman in my memory, enters into football expecting to make money).

 

As mentioned by others what grates me is deliberate action to make timely arrangements he knew could be punitive to the club existence if things went pear-shape, (which they spectacularly did). These actions (floating charge loan and ICTP buy-out), would have been done in full view or knowledge of the board, and either through ignorance, stupidity or just saying nothing never questioned whether this was done in the best interests of the club. Most have run to the hills for cover, but as things unwind they will not be forgotten.

 

We (the club), need the stadium to play in the league. We don’t have sufficient fans (3500-4000?) to finance a Championship level operation, so it appears any buyer for the club needs to include the purchase of a number of the ICTP land plots so none football revenue can be made to meet the running costs. ICTP (RM) foreseen this I expect, so can hold out to maximise this advantage to see what they can get in any arrangement or ‘deal’.

The only pressure I see we can put on RM is the threat to hand back the stadium to the Council and go elsewhere. i.e Value of land crashes.
 

The floating charge it seems we are stuck with – merely whether RM will hold out for the full 1.65M

 

Whilst he may have not done anything wrong (politician like), I return to would the actions be considered in any way as an infraction on the best interests of ICTFC that he was the Chairman at that time? 

 

Maybe he was just four steps ahead of everyone. No simple or cheap answers I fear.

bc

Perceptive, as ever, Cherlie!

Although there is still some information to be uncovered - and in particular exactly how and from whom Caley Thistle Properties and hence the car park lease was acquired by Morrison and Cameron - the last six months or so have gone a considerable way towards revealing what has been going on in the club in recent years. (I would also emphasise that this has been happening while minimal information has been given to shareholders and other interested parties with for instance the Board defaulting on the holding of AGMs.)

We now realise that for a period of years, the latter part of it under the chairmanship of Ross Morrison, the club has been allowed to sleepwalk into a massive amount of debt with some aspects, such as the Cameron Harper Carlisle move and the absurdly large Puma contract, so extreme that they still need credible explanation. And while this unsustainable way of operating hurtled, latterly under Ross Morrison’s chairmanship, towards administration, Morrison kept the ever more ricketty bandwagon on the road by a process that made the club heavily indebted to him. However he did so by means which, should the train hit the buffers during or immediately after his chairmanship, ensured (or so he thought) that he had an iron personal grip over the assets in the form of a Charge on the stadium and joint control of the car park lease. Basically he presided over a situation where the club was allowed to sleepwalk more annd more deeply into debt in a manner where he continually covered it, but knowing (or perhaps believing?) that he would get his money back in kind if (when?) it all went pear shaped.

That’s a scenario that doesn’t sit comfortably with me insofar as he protected himself from liability in a dangerous situation which he played a leading role in creating. 
However I do see one possible chink of light which is the statement from the administrator that the Charge may be invalid due to some technicality about its timing that I don’t understand.

But how on earth this could have been allowed to progress as far as it did in full sight if the rest of the Board (who had far more access to information than shareholders and fans had) is beyond understanding.

Edited January 5 by Charles Bannerman

[PullMyFinger]

5 hours ago, big cherly said:

 

(Spoiler alert  – No board member /Chairman in my memory, enters into football expecting to make money).

 

bc

Craig White?

[Scotty]

On 1/5/2025 at 4:28 AM, big cherly said:

The only pressure I see we can put on RM is the threat to hand back the stadium to the Council and go elsewhere. i.e Value of land crashes.

Thats a possibility. The land may be worthwhile to the council in terms of selling it on or leasing it as part of the freeport area if we were to be relocated or perhaps they let it lie fallow for a few years to truly drive the value down. However, where would we go and how would we finance a new stadium? Would this be part of any deal to reclaim the reclaimed land? I have no idea of the legalities of this, but if the lease has been "acquired" out from underneath us then no-one can cry foul if the council do it to them!

RM once told me - when we were discussing potential links over here - that he would sell his stake in the club for £1 if the right person came along. I challenge him to do that now! Come to the table, work things out for the benefit of all. 

 

23 hours ago, Charles Bannerman said:

Perceptive, as ever, Cherlie!

Although there is still some information to be uncovered - and in particular exactly how and from whom Caley Thistle Properties and hence the car park lease was acquired by Morrison and Cameron - the last six months or so have gone a considerable way towards revealing what has been going on in the club in recent years. (I would also emphasise that this has been happening while minimal information has been given to shareholders and other interested parties with for instance the Board defaulting on the holding of AGMs.)

We now realise that for a period of years, the latter part of it under the chairmanship of Ross Morrison, the club has been allowed to sleepwalk into a massive amount of debt with some aspects, such as the Cameron Harper Carlisle move and the absurdly large Puma contract, so extreme that they still need credible explanation. And while this unsustainable way of operating hurtled, latterly under Ross Morrison’s chairmanship, towards administration, Morrison kept the ever more ricketty bandwagon on the road by a process that made the club heavily indebted to him. However he did so by means which, should the train hit the buffers during or immediately after his chairmanship, ensured (or so he thought) that he had an iron personal grip over the assets in the form of a Charge on the stadium and joint control of the car park lease. Basically he presided over a situation where the club was allowed to sleepwalk more annd more deeply into debt in a manner where he continually covered it, but knowing (or perhaps believing?) that he would get his money back in kind if (when?) it all went pear shaped.

That’s a scenario that doesn’t sit comfortably with me insofar as he protected himself from liability in a dangerous situation which he played a leading role in creating. 
However I do see one possible chink of light which is the statement from the administrator that the Charge may be invalid due to some technicality about its timing that I don’t understand.

But how on earth this could have been allowed to progress as far as it did in full sight if the rest of the Board (who had far more access to information than shareholders and fans had) is beyond understanding.

Was going to cut out parts of this for brevity but I simply cannot. You are right Charles. There has been a lack of clarity and transparency going on for years, one that you have highlighted here and elsewhere for some time and which our posters on here have also been concerned about for years. There is a lot that doesnt pass the sniff test, and it has got stinkier every year, month and week. As shareholders we have been treated like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed on s*** ! There has to be some dereliction of process and duty of care in this somewhere. 

[CELTIC1CALEY3]

My money is on the Administrator knowing the Companies Acts better than RM. 

Just weigh this up:

 

The Companies Act 2006 codified certain common law and equitable duties of directors for the first time. The act sets out the general duties of directors, which are:

to act within powers in accordance with the company’s constitution and to use those powers only for the purposes for which they were conferred
to promote the success of the company for the benefit of its members
to exercise independent judgement
to exercise reasonable care, skill and diligence
to avoid conflicts of interest
not to accept benefits from third parties
to declare an interest in a proposed transaction or arrangement

[Row S]

To put some perspective on the development potential (and ultimately the value) of the home and away car parks, here is an extract from the Highland Council's 2024 Inner Moray Firth Local Development Plan.

Use(s): Office, Business, Industry. Area: 2 ha Developer requirements: ............... detailed masterplan to demonstrate improved public realm, improved connectivity of the blue/ green network; and that the proposed new urban environment makes a positive contribution to the area; active travel improvements to connect site with Inverness city centre, including connections to emerging projects at Inverness Harbour; redevelopment of the site must not result in a net decrease in parking provision, any compensatory parking provision must be located in close proximity to the stadium, be easily accessible and have high quality active travel connections to the stadium; .................

In terms of parking, if the stadium remains then so should the parking or it is replaced with the same level of provision (related to its capacity) as close as possible to the stadium. The development of the land for other uses would also generate the need for its own parking.

Incidentally, the Club was supposed to have increased the parking provision when the North and South stands were built in 2004/05, to correspond with the increase in the capacity of the stadium. That additional provision was to be on land over the security fence from the away car park, between the travelers site and the A9. The Club was going to lease this land from the Council but it is not clear if that ever happened. RM might know though.  

[big cherly]

3 hours ago, Scotty said:

Thats a possibility.  However, where would we go and how would we finance a new stadium? 
 

Yes agree, it’s a worse case scenario. Put forward when cornered, where all other options are exhausted and you have to fight yourself out of it. 
It appears fantastic and crazy, but if nothing else RM has etched in every ICT fans mind,  money is his God. If we affect that mindset I.e ICTP land value would be seriously devalued and put back a number of years. He should keep that 1% chance when he meets with BDO later this month. 
 

Crazy idea - The practicalities and economics probably don’t add up, but RM or his people / solicitor's don’t read CTO so no worries there
Here goes - We see out this season at the stadium (going on the premise the current lease is to the summer).
We notify the council of handing back the stadium in July whilst consider safer and viable short and long term alternatives. Recognise we are a least another season in Div 1 (Div 3 to me) I.e June 2026. There is no need for any more than 2000 seats IMO.

Short term - Rent Victoria Park from Uncle Roy for two or three seasons. (I know I know), But RMcG is a (excellent) businessman. He probably is a buddy of RM, but money talks. He gets to greatly reduce his running costs and we give him a tonne of grass-seed twice a year. Most fans would come round to seeing this got one up RM and journey to Dingwall.  Bear in mind we hired Pittorie 20 odd years ago (freezing place).

Long term - My immediate thoughts are the Bught Park. It would need more capacity and upgrade to meet the league stat requirements. Or share with the athletic or rugby clubs!

Nuts I know, and probably more expensive than coughing up to meet RM’s asking price. But in the absence of just bending on both knees and begging for RM to help us in out in our hour of need and not shaft us. ????

My application for the asylum is already in the post. 
bc
 

Edited January 6 by big cherly

[Charles Bannerman]

I have now managed to establish the route by which Cameron and Morrison acquired control of the ICT Property Company and hence of the lease of the car parks and of the so called Bermuda Triangle at the far end of the North car parks. This was purchased from a body that was effectively Tullochs, which also tells us that about 8ish years ago, when the stadium was given back to the club by Tullochs, they retained the car park lease under Propco whose two directors, before Cameron and Morrison took over in August 2023, according to Companies House, were George Fraser, former Chairman of Tullochs and a Cesidio de Ciacca who appears to have been a minor Propco shareholder. This means that, contrary to what many, including myself, had thought, the club gained nothing from the acquisition so the transaction was not apparently made as a bail-out.

So why, then, did Cameron and Morrison acquire this intangible but potentially valuable asset if it wasn’t to keep the club afloat? In Cameron’s case, it’s especially mysterious since the gentleman is 82 years old and there are other gestures he could have made that might have helped the club more. As for Morrison, five months after he acquired his share of that lease, he also made a loan of £1.65 million to the club, but with the security of the Stadium plus the land on which it stands and right out to the pavement. As previously mentioned, this security (Charge) may, in the opinion of the administrator, be subject to challenge, but as things stand, Cameron and Morrison - who resigned as club directors respectively in July and May 2024 - potentially have complete control over the stadium and all that surrounds it.

It was also made pretty clear at the administrator’s press conference on December 23rd that Cameron and Morrison - respectively based in Aviemore and Broughty Ferry - have been attempting to play hardball over the car park lease, leading us to ask whether they are looking for pretty big bucks for it?

It is therefore very clear that these two former directors pose the biggest obstacle that the administrator has to clear as he tries to ensure that this club survives and moves forward.

As a post script, it was my firm understanding back in 1994 that the Common Good Fund granted the original lease specifically for the purpose of taking Scottish League football to Inverness so any attempted change of use might rank alongside the query over Morrison’s loan in terms of what is going for the club here.

Edited January 6 by Charles Bannerman

[Charles Bannerman]

2 hours ago, big cherly said:

Long term - My immediate thoughts are the Bught Park. It would need more capacity and upgrade to meet the league stat requirements. Or share with the athletic or rugby clubs!

I don’t think the Bught is even a starter here, and for one or two reasons, Cherly.

Back in 1993, INE commissioned a study which eventually led to the choice of the current stadium site, but the Bught never even figured. Agreed, the West Link has appeared since then which might appear to improve access to close to the Bught, but in terms of immediate access, the area is already a traffic nightmare, made worse by everyone trying to pile out on to Glenurquhart Road because you can no longer drive north along the riverside because of that £2.5M cycleway that nobody uses.

The other big problem with the Bught is that the land is all already committed to other purposes and - to be blunt - people aren’t going to be prepared to be dislodged simply to accommodate a football club that’s failed to run itself properly. The Bught Stadium itself would be a complete no-no since it is currently undergoing a multi-million pound upgrade as a national centre for shinty.

You mentioned sharing with the rugby club or the athletics track. Both of these are HighLife Highland facilities so any football club would simply be tenants and there would probably difficulties with advertising signage. But, more fundamentally, the rugby club doesn’t even have a stand while, although the running track has a small one, spectator areas are quite limited. Also, there is no running water at the track past the sports centre which is the only location of toilets and, with field event areas on the infield, the Queens Park isn’t actually big enough to accommodate a football pitch. And then there’s the issue that Highland RFC and Inverness Harriers both have their own fixture lists which they wouldn’t be prepared or indeed able to have disrupted, and the same goes for both clubs’ weekly training sessions which would clash with midweek football fixtures.

What the 1993 report showed was that Inverness wasn’t, even then, well provided with potential sites for a football stadium so - apart from possible greenfield areas outwith the city boundary - I don’t see that having become any better over the last 30 years of development.

Edited January 6 by Charles Bannerman

[buckett]

29 minutes ago, Charles Bannerman said:

So why, then, did Cameron and Morrison acquire this intangible but potentially valuable asset if it wasn’t to keep the club afloat? In Cameron’s case, it’s especially mysterious since the gentleman is 82 years old and there are other gestures he could have made that might have helped the club more. As for Morrison, five months after he acquired his share of that lease, he also made a loan of £1.65 million to the club, but with the security of the Stadium plus the land on which it stands and right out to the pavement. As previously mentioned, this security (Charge) may, in the opinion of the administrator, be subject to challenge, but as things stand, Cameron and Morrison - who resigned as club directors respectively in July and May 2024 - potentially have complete control over the stadium and all that surrounds it.

It was also made pretty clear at the administrator’s press conference on December 23rd that Cameron and Morrison - respectively based in Aviemore and Broughty Ferry - have been attempting to play hardball over the car park lease, leading us to ask whether they are looking for pretty big bucks for it?

It is therefore very clear that these two former directors pose the biggest obstacle that the administrator has to clear as he tries to ensure that this club survives and moves forward.

It occurs to me now that I've retired, that I would be of more value to my grown-up offspring if I were to drop dead!

[bishbashbosh]

1 hour ago, buckett said:

It occurs to me now that I've retired, that I would be of more value to my grown-up offspring if I were to drop dead!

Not if you’re a farmer with some land to pass on. 

[CELTIC1CALEY3]

5 hours ago, Charles Bannerman said:

Cameron and Morrison - who resigned as club directors respectively in July and May 2024

Charles according to Companies House, and I have no reason to doubt them, Cameron ceased to be a Director of the FC Company IN 2022. As I indicated earlier in this thread, that meant he was a Private individual in the transaction and similarly so in the Battery Farm Company. July,2024 was when the FC Company notified Companies House. 

06 Jul 2024

Termination of appointment of David John Cameron as a director on 5 March 2022

 

Correspondence address

Glenspey, Grampian Road, Aviemore, Scotland, PH22 1RP

Role Resigned

Director

Date of birth

December 1942

Appointed on

11 November 2019

Resigned on

5 March 2022

Nationality

British

Country of residence

Scotland

Occupation

Company Director

 

 

[Row S]

15 hours ago, Charles Bannerman said:

I don’t think the Bught is even a starter here, and for one or two reasons, Cherly.

Back in 1993, INE commissioned a study which eventually led to the choice of the current stadium site, but the Bught never even figured. Agreed, the West Link has appeared since then which might appear to improve access to close to the Bught, but in terms of immediate access, the area is already a traffic nightmare, made worse by everyone trying to pile out on to Glenurquhart Road because you can no longer drive north along the riverside because of that £2.5M cycleway that nobody uses.

The other big problem with the Bught is that the land is all already committed to other purposes and - to be blunt - people aren’t going to be prepared to be dislodged simply to accommodate a football club that’s failed to run itself properly. The Bught Stadium itself would be a complete no-no since it is currently undergoing a multi-million pound upgrade as a national centre for shinty.

You mentioned sharing with the rugby club or the athletics track. Both of these are HighLife Highland facilities so any football club would simply be tenants and there would probably difficulties with advertising signage. But, more fundamentally, the rugby club doesn’t even have a stand while, although the running track has a small one, spectator areas are quite limited. Also, there is no running water at the track past the sports centre which is the only location of toilets and, with field event areas on the infield, the Queens Park isn’t actually big enough to accommodate a football pitch. And then there’s the issue that Highland RFC and Inverness Harriers both have their own fixture lists which they wouldn’t be prepared or indeed able to have disrupted, and the same goes for both clubs’ weekly training sessions which would clash with midweek football fixtures.

What the 1993 report showed was that Inverness wasn’t, even then, well provided with potential sites for a football stadium so - apart from possible greenfield areas outwith the city boundary - I don’t see that having become any better over the last 30 years of development.

What about the site of the 3G pitch at the UHI Campus that the national bodies said there was no funding for? This is a large area adjacent to the railway line and a footbridge (with future rail halt potential). There is access from both the retail park and the Campus with a future link planned near to it between Smithton and Inshes. A stadium here with a 3G pitch or even a full plastic one could serve the wider community, student population and the football club. The Council (Common Good Fund) might even contribute from the proceeds of the sale of the land at the current stadium.    

[buckett]

Nobody's mentioned the Clach park, with a capacity of 3000 or so. Could a groundshare deal be done between Highland League and Scottish League that would be mutually beneficial to both clubs?

Certainly more accessible to many by foot than some others being mentioned.

[Charles Bannerman]

19 hours ago, CELTIC1CALEY3 said:

Charles according to Companies House, and I have no reason to doubt them, Cameron ceased to be a Director of the FC Company IN 2022. As I indicated earlier in this thread, that meant he was a Private individual in the transaction and similarly so in the Battery Farm Company. July,2024 was when the FC Company notified Companies House. 

06 Jul 2024

Termination of appointment of David John Cameron as a director on 5 March 2022

 

Correspondence address

Glenspey, Grampian Road, Aviemore, Scotland, PH22 1RP

Role Resigned

Director

Date of birth

December 1942

Appointed on

11 November 2019

Resigned on

5 March 2022

Nationality

British

Country of residence

Scotland

Occupation

Company Director

 

 

Apologies.. brainstorm on my part and in haste I quoted the dates that the resignations were filed at Companies House rather their actual dates.

It does seem a long time between resignation and notification in Cameron’s case. On the one hand, that may not be surprising by the standards of competence exercised by the club at the time, but more importantly it does highlight Cameron having become joint owner of the Propco whilst simply a private individual.

Edited January 7 by Charles Bannerman

[ictchris]

Courier reports that we have lost our Bronze license.

[Scotty]

12 minutes ago, ictchris said:

Courier reports that we have lost our Bronze license.

Seems like that was inevitable, but it does go on to say that no clubs are expected to lose league status as a result. 

 

"

Quote

Due to going into administration in October, Caley Thistle received entry level status for legal, administration, finance and codes of practice criteria, resulting in them being downgraded to an overall entry level licence.

In the other three areas, the Caledonian Stadium and the club’s youth set-up have been awarded silver status, with its first team set-up awarded bronze status.

A spokesman for the SFA said they were unable to go into details on the reasons for downgrading Caley Thistle to an entry level licence as discussions are confidential.

But in the SFA club licensing manual which is available on the SFA website, on Page 62, Section 8.13, it is believed administration is the only reason Inverness was downgraded to entry level.

"

[bishbashbosh]

6 hours ago, buckett said:

Nobody's mentioned the Clach park, with a capacity of 3000 or so. Could a groundshare deal be done between Highland League and Scottish League that would be mutually beneficial to both clubs?

Certainly more accessible to many by foot than some others being mentioned.

Used to frequent the ferry San Siro back in the 1970’s. Watched my grandson win the north of Scotland schools cup there last year.

remember watching as a kid, an Inverness select v Glasgow rangers European cup winners team. (Full team) Think 3-2 to the visitors after Caley Bobby noble inexplicably punched a floated corner, well above his head, to hand them a penalty.

was reading a piece online today about Clach playing home games at the rugby club while their burnt out changing room was being refurbished after a fire.

the piece ended with this ……………….

It certainly wasn't Clach Park.

Because if you take Clachnacuddin out of Merkinch, they aren't really Clachnacuddin at all.

i live across the bridge, I can walk the 3 miles to the stadium and the 3 miles home or take the car and park in the bridge’s south lay-by. Couldn’t be fecked trying to find parking round grant street.

It’s bad enough getting out of Dingwall when I watch county if we are away.

[bishbashbosh]

For a bronze licence, a club's manager and one of the first-team coaches is required to hold a Uefa B licence coaching badge, a club doctor is required at home games, while stadia are required to have a minimum of 500 covered spaces for supporters as opposed to 100 at entry level.

 

ah well that’s a ground share in Inverness out the window. Clach only has seating for 154 if that’s what it means by covered spaces.

[The Mantis]

56 minutes ago, bishbashbosh said:

ah well that’s a ground share in Inverness out the window. Clach only has seating for 154 if that’s what it means by covered spaces.

Covered spaces doesn’t mean seats even up to Silver. They’ve still got that covered end, yes? That must take 500 although 346 would be enough.

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/9978/sfa-club-licensing-manual-2023.pdf  (page 34)

 

Anyway, as @Scotty pointed out, it’s the admin event that has downgraded us, not the stadium, so it’s all academic (Edit- We’re possibly at cross-purposes here. I’m talking about the administration period. Apologies if you mean a permanent move away from Caley Stadium).

 

Edited January 7 by The Mantis

[CELTIC1CALEY3]

From Companies House today - https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/SC149117/filing-history

08 Jan 2025

Creditors’ decision on administrator’s proposals This document is being processed and will be available in 10 days.