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Adamskibeats    56

A complete non-issue and tbh a bit pathetic really.

What next ? Having a moan because a player is seen in a good mood in public after a defeat ? 

Absolute riddy. :slapme:

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Kingsmills    3,279
3 minutes ago, Adamskibeats said:

A complete non-issue and tbh a bit pathetic really.

What next ? Having a moan because a player is seen in a good mood in public after a defeat ? 

Absolute riddy. :slapme:

I tend to agree. Nobody took issue with fish and chips at Auchterarder when the team was generally winning under Butcher.

It's important that the players are generally fit and, in general terms, eat healthily. However, whatever our problems are at the moment, they are not down to the odd pizza or the odd fish supper on the way back from away matches.

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CELTIC1CALEY3    455

It does not work for Scott Kellagher.......................nor Robbo.......................but on the input / output model, it is not really a p[roblem after a game providing it is in moderation.

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+jingsmonty    196
48 minutes ago, Kingsmills said:

I tend to agree. Nobody took issue with fish and chips at Auchterarder when the team was generally winning under Butcher.

It's important that the players are generally fit and, in general terms, eat healthily. However, whatever our problems are at the moment, they are not down to the odd pizza or the odd fish supper on the way back from away matches.

Totally...sure the players are professional enough not to overindulge - everything in moderation..

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Renegade    2,295

The players should only be allowed to eat kale and drink mineral water IMHO.  Perhaps some spinach on special occasions.

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7 hours ago, dougal said:

can anyone honestly envisage the PSG bus pull up to the blue lagoon on argyle street tomorrow night to let Neymar,Draxler, Mbappe and Cavani etc off so they can get battered haggis or mars bars?

The Blue Lagoon on Argyle Street is absolutely howfing. They'll go to Gennaro's on Great Western Road if they've got any sense.

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Dougal must be rubbing his hands at the thought of a thread reaching well into its second page after starting life on unsupported claims on Pie and Bovril about the alleged delivery to the ICT team bus of pizzas of unknown composition and hence also (given that many pizzas can be very wholesome) of unknown implications for health.

However one or two interesting issues have been raised, including some of "sports science" in relation to football. Sports science is a very wide ranging discipline, embracing not only dietetics as prompted by the OP but also questions of general training, strength and conditioning, recovery, the effects of noxious and intoxicating substances, psychology and a good deal more. Compared with other sports, football is a relatively recent convert to some of these concepts, to the extent that they don't yet seem to be embraced universally by the game when maybe they should.

Posters have also raised issues about professional sportspeople being meant to know what they should and shouldn't be doing, highly paid players going on the bash at various times and the likes of PSG being unlikely to behave "badly". These are all very valid observations... but they tend to pale into insignificance in the face of just two words - Wayne Rooney, or indeed Paul Gascoigne and not a few others. The norms adopted by many other sports, including those where there is no payment, are still very much "work in progress" in football. However there does seem to be a pretty deeply rooted "counter-culture" there which will take some time to dislodge. And allowing the likes of Rooney to get away with it, as he has so frequently done, is not going to hep that cause one iota.

 

 

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What cannot be dismissed though is the Tinkerville management comments on the poor fitness level of Ross Draper ?!!

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2 hours ago, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said:

What cannot be dismissed though is the Tinkerville management comments on the poor fitness level of Ross Draper ?!!

Can you substantiate this with anything more concrete and credible than the "I've also heard...." in the OP?

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Hiro    214

Not bad Dougal. A page and a half out of this one so far.

As many others have pointed out, nothing to see here.  Many clubs including EPL actually have Pizza in the dressing room after matches.  Remember 'pizzagate' at Old Trafford?

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PumpFake    309

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+Fraz    929

The team bus always stopped in Achterarder for a chippe during the Terry & Mo days. 0 fuchs were given because we were doing well. Now all of a sudden there's an outrage?

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27 minutes ago, Fraz said:

The team bus always stopped in Achterarder for a chippe during the Terry & Mo days. 0 fuchs were given because we were doing well. Now all of a sudden there's an outrage?

Not quite, Fraz. Dougal has attempted to create one.

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lightwelter    131

Having worked in sport science, it is not at all uncommon for athletes to eat "junk food" following a competition. As was mentioned above, the media often sensationalise scientific research, but there had been studies that show that it's the macronutrient content that's important in terms of replenishing glycogen and repairing muscle damage. Hopefully those behind the scenes know the macronutrient content of the food the players are eating, but food with a high glycemic index is recommended post-match, and foods like pizza meet the criteria in that respect.

 

While most sport scientists wouldn't advocate dominos pizza post match, there's an element of ensuring you have buy in from the players and if you're going to allow one junk meal a week, having it after the match is the best time to do it.

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+jingsmonty    196
8 hours ago, lightwelter said:

Having worked in sport science, it is not at all uncommon for athletes to eat "junk food" following a competition. As was mentioned above, the media often sensationalise scientific research, but there had been studies that show that it's the macronutrient content that's important in terms of replenishing glycogen and repairing muscle damage. Hopefully those behind the scenes know the macronutrient content of the food the players are eating, but food with a high glycemic index is recommended post-match, and foods like pizza meet the criteria in that respect.

 

While most sport scientists wouldn't advocate dominos pizza post match, there's an element of ensuring you have buy in from the players and if you're going to allow one junk meal a week, having it after the match is the best time to do it.

Wasn't Usain Bolt partial to chicken mcnuggets? Didn't do him much harm...!

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+jingsmonty    196
11 hours ago, PumpFake said:

Rather than a slightly pathetic moan about pizza, I find the fact that the Fortune Tellers found Draper's fitness levels below par - is this an issue with our team or was Ross an isolated case?

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Adamskibeats    56
On 11/09/2017 at 10:15 AM, dougal said:

Sports science is a huge part of the game these days and the majority of full time clubs in Scotland are embracing forward thinking ,sadly something we at ICT seem to be somewhat lacking in

Ok I appreciate we have more than a fair share of happy clappers in here but can anyone honestly envisage the PSG bus pull up to the blue lagoon on argyle street tomorrow night to let Neymar,Draxler, Mbappe and Cavani etc off so they can get battered haggis or mars bars?

They are classed and paid well as professional athletes they ought to know what they should or should not be eating

Its obvious we are going to need as much help as possible this season so maybe we should be looking into hiring a nutritionist to point the players in the right direction at  the very least 

I have no problem if this was a one off but it appears to be a common occurrence according to some posters which I find quite staggering

Dougal

 

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Dougal was satirically introducing the importance of diet in the lives of professional sportsmen. He the succinctly and astutely added in the Draper situation and evidently raising concerns about the pre season training schedule at ICT. Craig Brewster may have got a lot of things wrong but he knew how to look after himself from a dietary and fitness perspective and he lay down dietary restrictions on the squad and put them through the he'll of the Nairn sand dunes pre season. Lack of the diet and fitness, as highlighted by Dougal, would also have a definite affect on the proneness to injury - especially after a summer break and having to go into match mode quickly. Just looking at our performances, the types of injuries that we have incurred nd chastisement and ridicule from the Tinks it is worrying. We are the Podge of the Highlands.

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Laurence    77

Put Charles in charge of Fitness training. I believe he was quite an athlete years ago.

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Laurence    77

Brian Clough once said  " How do yo make Millionaires sweat " ?   This indicates that footballers really don't care for training

My Dad a Rochdale Harrier, would run 50 times around the Rochdale Hornets Rugby ground.

How many of our players could run around our ground 50 times.

I suggest the team are booked into the Inverness Harrier club , for some hard training on the nearby Hills. A wee bit of cross country will do them good.

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