Kelty/ Is this a joke - merged thread

[IBM]

9 hours ago, DoofersDad said:

Is the club paying for Gardiner's Tornagrain pad?

It wouldn’t surprise me if they are. 

[STFU]

29 minutes ago, Yngwie said:

Yes it would be good to get an update what is happening with the appeal. But if part of the problem with the initial application was that it was rushed and incomplete, it would make perfect sense for the club and its legal representatives to spend as much time as it takes to get it right and make the best possible case.

That would be a first and totally out of character.

They're also not allowed to make any change to the submission that went to council so the only thing they have to do is write a letter saying why they think the decision was wrong.

[RednBlackComeback]

12 hours ago, Yngwie said:

Sounds like we should be building a hotel at the stadium!

The Club is delighted to announce that our esteemed CEO is in the process of implementing his latest innovative business proposal for ICT.

ICTFC considers itself very fortunate to have an individual of Scot's talent at the helm and is, again, in awe of his imagination at dreaming up these excellent business ventures. We simply have no clue where he gets these ideas from!

With our imminent moving of football operations to Kelty, this leaves the stadium of little use to the club except on 'home' match days. Therefore, and without delay, the bulldozers will be moving in to clear the site in readiness for constructing the brand new CLUB HOTEL. It will be called the Gardiner Scot Hotel (very) Ltd. and be the latest addition to this exciting new hotel brand, consisting of . . . . ehm just this one.

Not only will the hotel be open for business to the tourist trade, it will also accommodate our own players on 'home' matchdays! The good news is that this could save the club up to £90 per player per night!!!! Strict security measures will be in place to guard the players privacy and ensure they do not come into any contact with the general public of Inverness. We can also exclusively reveal that our CEO has been in lengthy dialogue with Rangers FC and struck a deal that will see them having full use of the hotel on their visits north to play our (formerly local) rivals Ross County. Scot is staunchly proud of striking this deal, and when it concluded he loudly proclaimed "I Am The Person!!" and punched the air!

Of course we remain slightly committed to playing some of our matches in Inverness, and these will now take place at the Bught Stadium - depending on its availability!

We trust our valued supporters will be overjoyed with this news.

Assuring you of our full attention at all times, ICTFC.

[RednBlackComeback]

2 hours ago, RiG said:

Just so folk have some context to this the planning application was officially refused on or around 14 March 2024. Section 6 of the Guide to Planning Appeals in Scotland states that the limit for appealing is three months from the date of the decision. Looking at the DPEA website shows a total of six appeals, since the battery form decision, within the Highland Council area. Only three of them are a Planning Permission Appeal (PPA) and they are located in Farr or Drumnadrochit.

So this means that no planning appeal has been submitted for the BESS (yet!) and they have something like 17 days to get one in.

I could be totally wrong but I think they have 3 months from the date on the refusal notice, and it was dated 11th April, so that would give them until 11th July to get their appeal in?

[Yngwie]

27 minutes ago, RednBlackComeback said:

The Club is delighted to announce that our esteemed CEO is in the process of implementing his latest innovative business proposal for ICT.

ICTFC considers itself very fortunate to have an individual of Scot's talent at the helm and is, again, in awe of his imagination at dreaming up these excellent business ventures. We simply have no clue where he gets these ideas from!

With our imminent moving of football operations to Kelty, this leaves the stadium of little use to the club except on 'home' match days. Therefore, and without delay, the bulldozers will be moving in to clear the site in readiness for constructing the brand new CLUB HOTEL. It will be called the Gardiner Scot Hotel (very) Ltd. and be the latest addition to this exciting new hotel brand, consisting of . . . . ehm just this one.

Not only will the hotel be open for business to the tourist trade, it will also accommodate our own players on 'home' matchdays! The good news is that this could save the club up to £90 per player per night!!!! Strict security measures will be in place to guard the players privacy and ensure they do not come into any contact with the general public of Inverness. We can also exclusively reveal that our CEO has been in lengthy dialogue with Rangers FC and struck a deal that will see them having full use of the hotel on their visits north to play our (formerly local) rivals Ross County. Scot is staunchly proud of striking this deal, and when it concluded he loudly proclaimed "I Am The Person!!" and punched the air!

Of course we remain slightly committed to playing some of our matches in Inverness, and these will now take place at the Bught Stadium - depending on its availability!

We trust our valued supporters will be overjoyed with this news.

Assuring you of our full attention at all times, ICTFC.

On the dark A9 highway, cool wind in my hair
Warm smell of burnt pies rising up through the air
Up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim, I had to stop for the night
There Scot stood in the doorway, with some snake oil to sell
And I was thinkin' to myself, "This could be heaven or this could be hell"
Then he gave me a handshake and he showed me the way
There were voices from the North Stand I thought I heard them say

Welcome to the Hotel Caledonian
Such an empty place
What a big disgrace
Plenty of seats at the Hotel Caledonian
Any time of year
There’s no players here

 

[RiG]

42 minutes ago, RednBlackComeback said:

I could be totally wrong but I think they have 3 months from the date on the refusal notice, and it was dated 11th April, so that would give them until 11th July to get their appeal in?

I've not seen the official notice but assumed it would be dated close to the time they refused the application at the hearing in March. If the notice isn't dated until 11 April then yes that would give them some more breathing space to get their appeal submitted.

ETA: You are correct the decision notice was dated 11 April so they'll have until ~ 11 July to get something into the DPEA.

Edited May 28 by RiG

[caley1]

Grassa resigned now charlie ? 
domino effect happening ? 
 

[LisleRightPeg]

Not good. Two men that know the club inside out 

[izzy]

8 minutes ago, LisleRightPeg said:

Not good. Two men that know the club inside out 

All the wrong people resigning .This is unbelievable.!!!

[Jack Waddington]

Rumour has it that the club's pulling a U-Turn on the Kelty move. Though, given Scot's ego and the fact he can never be in the wrong, its probably a load of guff

[+DoofersDad]

If the club do a u-turn, the person / people who came up with the daft idea in the first place simply have to go too.  Fingers crossed.

[Charles Bannerman]

58 minutes ago, DoofersDad said:

If the club do a u-turn, the person / people who came up with the daft idea in the first place simply have to go too.  Fingers crossed.

Also… if there’s an enforced U-turn, then any subsequent insolvency event may end up being attributed (although not necessarily attributable) to that U-turn and those who (very rightly) pursued it.

[Broonerz]

28 minutes ago, Charles Bannerman said:

Also… if there’s an enforced U-turn, then any subsequent insolvency event may end up being attributed (although not necessarily attributable) to that U-turn and those who (very rightly) pursued it.

I think you are 100% right Charles, but if this goes ahead it’s the beginning of the end for the future of Senior League football in Inverness (for the time being anyway)

Edited May 28 by Broonerz

[Scotty]

2 hours ago, caley1 said:

Grassa resigned now charlie ? 
domino effect happening ? 

If that has indeed happened with both Grassa and Charlie then I am sorry, that speaks huge volumes. I know neither are everyone's cup of tea, and everyone is entitled to their opinions, but both played for the club, both have been involved with the club for decades, both are LOCAL boys, and both should still be associated with the club. In fact both might be the figureheads in the boardroom and backroom we (initially) need to get behind to get us back on track and start getting the city, and local businesses and people behind the club again. It will be a long and arduous task after the mayhem and destruction caused by the current incumbents.     
 

1 hour ago, Jack Waddington said:

Rumour has it that the club's pulling a U-Turn on the Kelty move. Though, given Scot's ego and the fact he can never be in the wrong, its probably a load of guff

We will see. thats a lot of ego deflation to endure and humble pie for one man to eat. 
 

31 minutes ago, Charles Bannerman said:

Also… if there’s an enforced U-turn, then any subsequent insolvency event may end up being attributed (although not necessarily attributable) to that U-turn and those who (very rightly) pursued it.

Bullshit. I agree they will likely try to spin it that way, but this was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Too many hair-brained cunning plans that Blackadder would have been proud of. The chairman did achieve unity however, so I will give him that. We are pretty much all united against this absolute folly of a decision and our ineffective CEO. 

 

 

[CELTIC1CALEY3]

On 5/27/2024 at 1:48 PM, Yngwie said:

If the application was made by ICTFC and appealed by ICTFC then it is all as valid as it ever was. I presume there are then commercial agreements, leases etc, between the relevant companies, which do not have to be published anywhere.

Yngwie - With regard to the Planning Appeal (and the apparent delay in submitting it), surely ICT Battery Storage Ltd with one share in the name of ICT FC was controlled by the FULL BOARD of Directors of ICT FC.

When that Company was changed so that just THREE Directors were allowed to take decisions surely the appeal became more problematic with civil servants wanting to see evidence to re-assure them that there was no change? There would be a board minute authorising the change. You mention 'presume' but it would be essential.  The first question the civil service would ask 'is why change the power structure in the company which placed the application to Highland Council....just after it refused the application? The minute would explain.

 

[Hearach]

If Charlie and Grassa have indeed resigned and given the fact that season ticket holders are in the main not renewing what are thoughts on Centenary Club? Do all the funds from that get directed to Community Trust? 

[Scotty]

A few simple graphics I did over the last couple of days. Feel free to post and share.  @CaleyD was our graphics Wizz kid so these are very simple

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[+Gringo]

55 minutes ago, Hearach said:

If Charlie and Grassa have indeed resigned and given the fact that season ticket holders are in the main not renewing what are thoughts on Centenary Club? Do all the funds from that get directed to Community Trust? 

I was of the understanding that funds helped youth development? I could be wrong. 

[IBM]

4 minutes ago, Gringo said:

I was of the understanding that funds helped youth development? I could be wrong. 

That is my understanding as well Gringo. 

[Rebus1746]

Ross Morrison says ‘I would stand down tomorrow’ if it helped the club! https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/exclusive-caley-thistle-chairman-says-i-would-stand-down-t-351844

[ictchris]

Interview with Ross Morrison in the Courier

 

 

[Leaky Blinder]

9 minutes ago, Rebus1746 said:

Ross Morrison says ‘I would stand down tomorrow’ if it helped the club! https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/exclusive-caley-thistle-chairman-says-i-would-stand-down-t-351844

Why wait .. 

[Scotty]

I would rather he got his employee to stand down. 

This image really should be a caption competition

 

 

[EvilWhiteStripe]

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Take Arbroath, I spoke to the ex-chairman the other day. They don’t train in Arbroath

Pretty sure they don't train 125 miles away though.

*Edit* Just did some quick groundwork. If Arbroath trained in a similar manner, they would be training in Kilmarnock

He is also laying the groundwork for "If we don't do this the club will go bust" excuse. Totally missing the point entirely.

Edited May 28 by EvilWhiteStripe

[hislopsoffsideagain]

£200k/year on accomodation (as per Morrison's comments in that interview) sounds like quite a figure. Going rent for a 4 bedroom house (surely bigger than what is needed) in Inverness seems to be about £1300/month. So that would be equivalent of paying entire rent (not just contribution towards it) for nearly 13 houses?!