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Light At The End of The Tunnel ?

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We have gone from a week where a small group of homophobic, mysoginist, sectarian bigots seemed to be pulling almost all of the UK Prime Minister's strings for their own narrow minded agenda and where the maverick US president broke with decades of international consensus to deliberately provoke violence and unrest in the Middle East to a week of relative optimism.

Firstly we have a liberal, pro choice candidate with a proud record of prosecuting the Klu Klax Clan being elected to the US Senate and now we have a small but significant number of principled Tory MPs  standing up for those principles and against the rabid right wing press to give the UK parliament the opportunity to try to insure that Brexit might not be the unmitigated disaster it will be if the nutters get their way.

I may be naively optimistic but suddenly the world seems a slightly less dark place.

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I think you are naively optimistic Kingsmills or you have already started on the Christmas sherry!

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1 hour ago, IBM said:

I think you are naively optimistic Kingsmills or you have already started on the Christmas sherry!

Never touch the stuff. Port, now that's a different matter altogether.😊

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27 minutes ago, Kingsmills said:

Never touch the stuff. Port, now that's a different matter altogether.😊

Yes.  Always thought you were on the port side of the political spectrum.

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4 hours ago, Kingsmills said:

We have gone from a week where a small group of homophobic, mysoginist, sectarian bigots seemed to be pulling almost all of the UK Prime Minister's strings for their own narrow minded agenda and where the maverick US president broke with decades of international consensus to deliberately provoke violence and unrest in the Middle East to a week of relative optimism.

Firstly we have a liberal, pro choice candidate with a proud record of prosecuting the Klu Klax Clan being elected to the US Senate and now we have a small but significant number of principled Tory MPs  standing up for those principles and against the rabid right wing press to give the UK parliament the opportunity to try to insure that Brexit might not be the unmitigated disaster it will be if the nutters get their way.

I may be naively optimistic but suddenly the world seems a slightly less dark place.

Those are both bits of good news certainly.  But one thing I haven't seen or heard mentioned regarding the Brexit vote, is that apart from it upholding the principle of parliamentary democracy, it surely helps in Britain getting a better deal?  The EU are bargaining hard with the UK Government confident that a Government that is committed to leave the EU will be prepared to leave on a tough deal for the UK.  Now that the deal has to be approved by parliament, the EU may feel it has to consider what parliament will be prepared to accept.  I suspect that Parliament will not accept the kind of deal that the Government would be prepared to accept.  

The other thing about this is that the referendum is not binding in law and Parliament could decide that if they don't think the deal is a good deal for the UK, rather than leave with no deal as the Government is saying, we simply withdraw our application to leave and stay in the EU.  Having said  that, one often gets the impression that lots of people are saying that if they'd known then what they know now, they would never have voted for leave.  However, whilst polls do now show a majority in favour of remaining in the EU, it is only a small shift in opinion from the referendum result.  Interesting times ahead I think.

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12 hours ago, dougiedanger said:

Polls were and are quite clear that Scotland wanted to remain, yet here we are pulled headlong into the Little Englander abyss.

The polls were equally clear that Dr Finlay Crescent, Tannochbrae wanted to leave.... which is no more relevant in a UK-wide vote.

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5 minutes ago, Charles Bannerman said:

The polls were equally clear that Dr Finlay Crescent, Tannochbrae wanted to leave.... which is no more relevant in a UK-wide vote.

Hate to break it to you, CB, but Tannochbrae isn't real. Scotland is. That's relevant.  :wink:

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Like this topic there is a Light at the End of the Tunnel our  First Minister Nicola Sturgeon is going to bring in a Basic Income for all Scots £150 a week for Life

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There was talk about this last year.  It would be a radical change and I can't see it being introduced without some fairly major consultation.  However, it has been a mainstay of the Green Party's policy since well before the  Ecology Party changed it's name to the Green Party and I wonder if a commitment to consult on this with a view to it's introduction is part of any deal with the Greens to get the SNP budget through.

I think this would be a really positive development which should simplify the benefits and tax systems.  A real advantage is that it allows people who are able only to do small amounts of part time or seasonal work to be able to see the full value of the money they have earned.

Of course, this has to be paid for and somewhere in the middle there will be folk whose tax will need to go up by as much as the basic income they receive, whilst for higher earners it would be more.  That will not go down well with many and therefore this is another reason for careful and widespread consultation.  

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