Do You Have Faith in Butcher?

[Renegade]

So a simple question really. Soon a new season will be upon us and this time around Butcher really will have his own team out there on the field. Looking towards the coming season, do you have faith in him?

Edited June 8, 2012 by Renegade

[Alex MacLeod]

So long as the board has faith then so do I

[old caley girl]

Have answered yes because I dont feel we have any choice but to go with the flow at the moment. Not panicking as there are plenty to come in yet but I am worried about the way things have been going. Lets see how things go.

[PaderbornCaley]

What do you mean to have faith? Faith to reach top 6 or faith to avoid relegation? I don't have faith that we will make top 6 - but I don't think any manager would achieve that on our current budget.

I do have faith that we will finish at least 11th, but i'm not expecting much better than that. However, with Butchers contacts down south, I do have faith that he can uncover at least 2 'gems' so I suppose this will be a yes from me.

Ask this again in last August and I will see how I feel for the remainder of the season.

Edited June 8, 2012 by CapitalCaley

[gordieict]

So long as the board has faith then so do I

The board had faith in Brewster until it was to late Alex

[IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER]

So long as the board has faith then so do I

Feck me I was going to say yes before I read that !!!

I am sitting on the fence - I put faith in him last season and he failed miserably. However lets all hope that he proves us all wrong. After all this season has to be looked at as Butchers team - irrespective of whether he can sign the players that he wants or not.

[caleyboy]

So long as the board has faith then so do I

Wow, how can you have faith in a board which can't control it's manager, doesn't give him a budget to compete with the tinks and goes cap in hand every year to cover the regular £250k loss. This board needs a shake and get the man who is willing to make a very sizeable investment as long as long as a certain individual leaves the scene!

Edited June 8, 2012 by caleyboy

[Alex MacLeod]

If anyone out there was in a position to make a sizeable investment then whats stopping him buying out the certain individual?

[12th Man]

If the poll had more of a scale, I think the picture would be clearer as opposed to a yes /no option.

It certainly will be Mr Bs squad now so I hope he choses wisely with the players he can bring in and soon finds a style of play that suits the players he has.

[caleyboy]

If anyone out there was in a position to make a sizeable investment then whats stopping him buying out the certain individual?

Why would he want any one individual to profit from his investment? He says he wants to invest in the Football Club but maybe "once biten twice shy!

[AJS]

I have said yes for now as we are yet to get a good idea of what our recruitment drive is like. He is under immense pressure to get people in and it all depends on how well he does but i am continuing to support him for now.

[A96]

Letting Grant Munro go last year was really hard to take and we paid a heavy price in defence for it (R*ss C**nty's gain). Letting Rosscoe go is just a step too far and totally stupid. These were guys who played for the jersey - not just using ICT as a stepping stone to something else. They were true Caley Thistle heroes and stalwarts. All we can look forward to now are unknowns from the diddy leagues of England who will use ICT for their own career progress. Grant Munro & Rosscoe were fans' favourites and played with the true ICT spirit. We've had the heart of our club ripped out - these two guys were still in their prime and now we can 'look forward' to them playing for C**nty against us in the SPL.

I'm truly dreading next season! Will it be a case of more sendings off, penalties against and own goals - which was the story of last season? I hope not. Over to you Mr Butcher to prove that my fears are unfounded. Happy to eat humble pie if you can improve things this season.

Edited June 8, 2012 by A96

[absent friend]

I voted ... yes as I thought we were voting re Butcher but I see from the above voting comments it is the board we are casting a critical eye on, not the manager and in that case - I am not sure if the Boards hands are financially tied.

[Oddquine]

So long as the board has faith then so do I

Wow, how can you have faith in a board which can't control it's manager, doesn't give him a budget to compete with the tinks and goes cap in hand every year to cover the regular £250k loss. This board needs a shake and get the man who is willing to make a very sizeable investment as long as long as a certain individual leaves the scene!

so you would welcome a Green or a Whyte then?

[IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Rangers fecked up by the Green and Whyte - never thought of that !!

Shall we continue to show faith in a Butcher and a Builder ?

Baby

I know you're asking me to stay

Stay

Please

Please

Please

Don't go away

You say I'm giving you the blues

Maybe you mean every word you say

Can't help but think of yesterday

And another who tied me down to Coaching rules

Before this river becomes an ocean

Before you throw my heart back on the floor

Oh baby

I reconsider my foolish notion

Well

I need someone to hold me

But I'll wait for something more

Yes

I've got to have faith

I've got to have faith

Before this river becomes an ocean

'Cause I've got to have faith

I've got to have faith

[Alex MacLeod]

Letting Grant Munro go last year was really hard to take and we paid a heavy price in defence for it (R*ss C**nty's gain). Letting Rosscoe go is just a step too far and totally stupid. These were guys who played for the jersey - not just using ICT as a stepping stone to something else. They were true Caley Thistle heroes and stalwarts. All we can look forward to now are unknowns from the diddy leagues of England who will use ICT for their own career progress. Grant Munro & Rosscoe were fans' favourites and played with the true ICT spirit. We've had the heart of our club ripped out - these two guys were still in their prime and now we can 'look forward' to them playing for C**nty against us in the SPL.

I'm truly dreading next season! Will it be a case of more sendings off, penalties against and own goals - which was the story of last season? I hope not. Over to you Mr Butcher to prove that my fears are unfounded. Happy to eat humble pie if you can improve things this season.

Nobody can ever say we paid a heavy price by letting Grant go. None of us know how he would have performed had he still been with us. Yes he done well for County but that was in a league below. The season previous he was forever being blamed for our performances and being accused of hoof and hope.

[lukemackay]

More to the point why is the munro scenario still rearing it's ugly head.

Snoresville.

[IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER]

It is called Post Traumatic Stress Disorder !!

[The Mantis]

I voted yes. The best managers have got man-management, tactics, team motivation and the ability to spot a player, and no doubt other things I've forgotten about.

In the absence of a 40-year old Pele who would have all these qualities (Robbo had most of them, Brew had the 4th, 10CC had probably all except no 3, Sergei had none of them) I'll keep backing Tel who probably only possesses no 3

[The Mantis]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Rangers fecked up by the Green and Whyte - never thought of that !!

Feck me Johndo, do they no have papers in Englandshire :lol: :lol: :lol:

[FoolPhysio]

Answered NO but fervently hope I am wrong.

[starchief]

Faith to do what? Top six? Nope. Relegation? Probably not but a possibility. Best manager we could have? Probably not. Deserves to be sacked for being nowhere near relegation, coming higher than a bigger-spending Hibs, falling only two points short of bigger-spending Aberdeen and winning more games than both the Dons and the next up, St Mirren? Nope.

This board is getting really tedious. Think it's time to retire.

[The Mantis]

Not long till the end of the silly season starchief!

[+bughtmaster]

Absolutely no real reason not to vote yes.

With a richer club any manager should do well so it is difficult to assess or compare his attributes fully but with his budget, training facilities and lack of support from the city in general then I cannot see us doing better.

In lower leagues with other ICT managers Caley have done well, Butchers one venture with the club in the first div. saw us top it. so you cannot judge him in an unfavourable light to those names that keep cropping up as being better than him

We can all critisize him and mine is the style of play but I understand it. We would love to see ICT play as Spain and Italy do but we cannot buy that sort of ability so his kick up and rush tactics do get us opportunities we just dont take them.

So thats my vote, yes and those are my reasons

[IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER]

Faith to do what? Top six? Nope. Relegation? Probably not but a possibility. Best manager we could have? Probably not. Deserves to be sacked for being nowhere near relegation, coming higher than a bigger-spending Hibs, falling only two points short of bigger-spending Aberdeen and winning more games than both the Dons and the next up, St Mirren? Nope.

This board is getting really tedious. Think it's time to retire.