sheepslagger

Foundation/Fan Funding

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2 hours ago, RiG said:

If I mind right MacGregor has written off something like £2 million of soft loans for Ross County in the last two seasons.

"The Ross County Way".

They are very fortunate to have someone who really cares for his club but unfortunately we don't and will probably never have someone with the same deep pockets.

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Indeed, I'd be delighted if we were in their situation. They are very lucky as you say.

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The club was born from fans of either side, over time some others have come along. However the number has stagnated. There will be young fans who are pure ICT without following another other club and now hopefully they will reproduce to bring the next generation along. We can't rely on solely sperm and eggs in this situation. The club needs to batter the city with propaganda. Get the social media right, be in people's faces every day, I am in Kirkcaldy and have pals who are Raith fans and they are constantly sharing stuff from the club. I know more about what's happening at Starks park than my own team. Batter the schools and local football clubs with offers of tickets and players. Players should be out and about constantly at assemblies and gym sessions. Connect the club with the city and there will be a change. We can't just wait for fans to arrive. We need to connect with the city first. It won't require lots of money. Seats are empty, social media is a low cost way of advertising and players have plenty down time over the week. Time for excuses about merger and the city not being behind us are done. Let's get it done. Awooga

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On 2/27/2019 at 1:23 PM, MorayJaggie said:

I have to admit having lived in Aberdeen and now Angus for past two years this is similar to the aberDNA idea Aberdeen fc introduced at the start of this season. Over 11000 AFC fans signed up to a 2 year commitment and got certain benefits like season ticket discount, merchandise discount entered into a draw for hospitality chance for juniors to win a mascot package discounts to cup games and they were given different levels they could donate monthly from £10 to I believe £50 a month those on the higher donations were also given a free home shirt. 

 

Yes we are smaller, we are not going to get the 100,000 + quid this generates for Aberdeen but it has been ring fenced for the Aberdeen playing budget. If you could ask the fans what they would like the money to be contributing towards, what they would like to get back from the scheme and what level of contributions could be made, then devise a plan and present that to the fan base, hopefully It would invigorate many among the not only regular attendees but folk like myself who live large distances way to help contribute regularly towards the success of the club in the future?

So do you think that a similar idea to the aberDNA would appeal ?  Im trying to find the best way to put it forward and it would be good to try and copy the best bits of other clubs initiatives to make our as good as we can get. Attractive for our fans.  Agree that the funds should be ring fenced for what they are being put in for, be that the Youth system or directly to the players budget.  I m sure the Players budget would be the more appealing as the results of the donations would be almost immediately evident.  Hopefully !  

If anyone has knowledge of other clubs foundations etc please let me know your thoughts on them. Hit or miss.

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42 minutes ago, sheepslagger said:

So do you think that a similar idea to the aberDNA would appeal ?  Im trying to find the best way to put it forward and it would be good to try and copy the best bits of other clubs initiatives to make our as good as we can get. Attractive for our fans.  Agree that the funds should be ring fenced for what they are being put in for, be that the Youth system or directly to the players budget.  I m sure the Players budget would be the more appealing as the results of the donations would be almost immediately evident.  Hopefully !  

If anyone has knowledge of other clubs foundations etc please let me know your thoughts on them. Hit or miss.

All I know is that it was advertised well by the club on busses radio newspaper social media taxis etc and as a result had an amazing response they did it in the closed season to tempt folk to sign up before season tickets were on sale to allow them that discount.

I believe if you gave folk donating via this similar or the same privileges as season ticket holders then it will allow those not able to commit to a season ticket more chance to engage with the club and feel part of the family that is ICTFC. Also having different levels of contributions with benefits to fit that level again will hopefully entice some to contribute towards it but I suppose it needs to be open and understood firstly what the money will be used for and those contributing to be asked prior where they want the funds to go.

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2 hours ago, sheepslagger said:

So do you think that a similar idea to the aberDNA would appeal ?  Im trying to find the best way to put it forward and it would be good to try and copy the best bits of other clubs initiatives to make our as good as we can get. Attractive for our fans.  Agree that the funds should be ring fenced for what they are being put in for, be that the Youth system or directly to the players budget.  I m sure the Players budget would be the more appealing as the results of the donations would be almost immediately evident.  Hopefully !   

If anyone has knowledge of other clubs foundations etc please let me know your thoughts on them. Hit or miss.

I have always liked the idea of the killie trust.  https://killietrust.killiefc.com/

Its been very sucessful in raising much meeded funds for the club while geting a fans representative on their board.

 

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Hearts and Aberdeen have both relied on waking up a large sleeping support who had become disillusioned.

Hearts foundation are not funding the team or youth...they are paying back Ann Budge and will ultimately have majority ownership in return.  The club itself is currently running within it's means without that funding going to it.

Aberdeen have the carrot of a new stadium/facilities to get people interested and involved.

Motherwell and St Mirren situations are more on a parallel with ours...but both plans to move towards fan funding involve fan ownership.

All if the above 4 scenarios have relied upon an element of cash up front and/or assistance from a wealthy benefactor to become a reality before any additional fan funding is/will kick in.

Setting aside my own personal views (which you are aware of), I don't think there's any route towards the kind of community funding you're talking about without a move towards fan ownership...and I don't mean the half baked community ownership model that the Chairman talked about at the last AGM which seemed little more than an attempt to cap everyone elses voting right, whilst maintaining their own.

Perhaps Muirfield Mills could make a gesture of goodwill, and demonstrate their involvment is not about ego and power, by passing back the 700,000+ shares they got control of for £1 (and which were previously tied up with the stadium ownership) to the club.  I think that could/would prove every bit as vital to securing future investment as Tullochs gifting back the stadium itself.

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Id be keen on putting some cash in on the premise;

I can get it back within say 2 years of requesting it

There is a small incentive to me to invest

I don't care about fans having a say on the board if I can get my money back.  This is to keep it simple and trust those in charge.  If I don't like what I see being done with my money, I can pull it.  The business idea is that ICT generate relative surplus income from fans investment i.e. finish one place higher in the league than had the money not been available.  

Money is money is money so a donation is something I think a lot of people wouldn't do in Inverness.  My donation is attending games.  Like someone above said, ICT is a business at the end of the day not a charity.  

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