Kelty/ Is this a joke - merged thread

[EvilWhiteStripe]

So Fife Council own the pitch that we have rented from Kelty.

[Rebus1746]

Caley Thistle now say they are “awaiting further details from Kelty Hearts” on how the partnership and lease will work. 

[ymip]

This would seem to represent an excellent opportunity to get out of the disastrous "six figure deal" the club claims to have entered into. It would appear that Kelty Hearts may well have misrepresented that they're entitled to enter into the contractual agreement which the club purports to have signed. One might have expected the club to engage the services of a competent external legal counsel to advise over a  fairly fundamental and legally binding agreement of this nature.  The fact that such a glaring omission has been missed would suggest that the CEO has added club lawyer to his vast array of skills.       

Edited May 29 by ymip

[LisleRightPeg]

It is S**** supporting ICT
We're the lowest of the low!
The scum of the F****** Earth!
The most wretched, miserable, servile, pathetic trash, that was shat into civilisation!
Some people hate County , I don't! They're just wankers!
We, on the other hand, are colonised by wankers!

Edited May 29 by LisleRightPeg

[Ronaldo]

Can we not get a Netflix deal and call it Wrecksum

[+snorbens_caleyman]

54 minutes ago, Stephen Malkmus said:

Would be a shame if someone block booked the facility for the next few months before our deal is signed.

We should have a whip-round and do that!

Then we refuse to let the club take our slots, and so they would have to train in Inverness.

[caley1]

This is what an amateur £100k CEO gets u !

what a complete ****** of a guy that thinks he is better than everyone else . How professional that you can’t even get the basics done first . Morrison and Gardiner looking more like the chuckle brothers with every passing minute . 
wonder what’s next on his list of failures ? 

Edited May 29 by caley1

[IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER]

From a business perspective this is a shambles. First they don't read the bottom line of the Battery Farm and now they go into a deal not checking about Fife Council. Take away the football and would you allow them to advise you or represent you regarding a business deal.

[caley1]

2 minutes ago, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said:

From a business perspective this is a shambles. First they don't read the bottom line of the Battery Farm and now they go into a deal not checking about Fife Council. Take away the football and would you allow them to advise you or represent you regarding a business deal.

And you wonder why he has failed in EVERY CEO job that he has managed to talk himself into . 
Someone on minimum wage would do a better job and have a better personality . 
( That wouldn’t be hard ) 

2 minutes ago, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said:

From a business perspective this is a shambles. First they don't read the bottom line of the Battery Farm and now they go into a deal not checking about Fife Council. Take away the football and would you allow them to advise you or represent you regarding a business deal.

 

[+Feb82000]

Just found out Kelly hearts do not own the training pitch it’s fife  council that’s owns it  so the deal may be blocked on that grounds we should all email fife council to get them to block the move

[Charles Bannerman]

I’m not able to access the full story but I follow that it’s emerged that the training facility in question is actually owned by Fife Council. This raises two questions.

Can we assume that, before concluding the deal, ICT performed due diligence and established that Kelty Hearts’ arrangement with Fife Council allows them to perform the necessary sub-letting process?

And can we assume that, before the arrangement was announced last Friday, ICT had established beyond doubt that the deal was over the line and certain to happen?

If the answer to the second question is “no” then this project would appear to be a victim of the same “nothing could possibly go wrong” mentality that afflicted the Concert Company and the Battery Farm. The only difference this time is that something goes wrong.. it will be a matter of widespread celebration.

[IBM]

28 minutes ago, Feb82000 said:

Just found out Kelly hearts do not own the training pitch it’s fife  council that’s owns it  so the deal may be blocked on that grounds we should all email fife council to get them to block the move

Where have you been all afternoon

[FrontRow]

On the other hand this is quite an inventive way to run a club. Imagine having to sell a Highland club to Americans. Imagine all the imagery, the connections that could be made to those who left the Highlands and settled in the States. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cg33138kyp4o.amp

the more I think about this the more I realise our current board have no idea of the Highlands place in the world. They have no idea of the emotional pull it has for people. They will say they are business/football people….if that was the case they would realise that supporting a team and playing for a team is driven, in the most part, by passion. They are missing the connection which the Highlands have for so many outside of Inverness. Instead we go down the ‘innovative’ route of Kelty and cutting the heart out of the club 

Edited May 29 by FrontRow
Second thoughts

[forresjags]

Surely we must be an attractive proposition for a rich American buy out. 

 

[robbylad]

38 minutes ago, Charles Bannerman said:

I’m not able to access the full story but I follow that it’s emerged that the training facility in question is actually owned by Fife Council. This raises two questions.

Can we assume that, before concluding the deal, ICT performed due diligence and established that Kelty Hearts’ arrangement with Fife Council allows them to perform the necessary sub-letting process?

And can we assume that, before the arrangement was announced last Friday, ICT had established beyond doubt that the deal was over the line and certain to happen?

If the answer to the second question is “no” then this project would appear to be a victim of the same “nothing could possibly go wrong” mentality that afflicted the Concert Company and the Battery Farm. The only difference this time is that something goes wrong.. it will be a matter of widespread celebration.

You can't make any assumptions with this shower of chancers. Apart from, they don't know what they're doing. Safe to assume that. 

[Jack Waddington]

Karen Gillan must have some Hollywood contacts to make a copycat 'Welcome to Wrexham'

[Yngwie]

Could the arrangement not be that Kelty FC would block book the pitch from Fife Council then charge us for using it?

Another interesting part to come out of this is that the contract between us and Kelty is not finalised. I suspect that before the announcement last week, the clubs would have entered into a ‘ Heads of Terms’ that would state the key terms (eg what we are hiring, for how long and the agreed price) which would all then be stated as being subject to a full contract that would contain further details and which lawyers would certainly get involved in.

[CaleyHedgehog]

Following the potential for the Fife Council intervention to throw a spanner in the kelty works, it could be time for a Local Hero type film remake - where the Highland Club takes on the nasty business man - that would be one way to make some money for the club ( and the Caley Club would become a must visit tourist location)..........but only when we win this fight.

No Inverness Training- No Season Ticket Renewal 

[CaleyHedgehog]

11 minutes ago, Jack Waddington said:

Karen Gillan must have some Hollywood contacts to make a copycat 'Welcome to Wrexham'

Sorry Jack, I was typing my post when you must have posted yours - maybe there will be a bidding war over the film rights!

[+snorbens_caleyman]

6 minutes ago, Yngwie said:

Could the arrangement not be that Kelty FC would block book the pitch from Fife Council then charge us for using it?

Just like any leasing arrangement, there are probably legal conditions about sub-letting or about the use of the ground.

Fife Council would not want Kelty to do anything which would reflect badly on the council - like, say, rent it out for a Reform Party rally.  

At the very least one of the first things that ICT should have done was to make sure that Kelty had the legal right - or permission - to enter into this agreement.

As it is, clearly Kelty have either implicitly or explicity given ICT the impression that that is the case, and so ICT should be able to walk away from it if Kelty don't have that right.  Though IANAL, as the saying goes.

 

B***dy hell, I've just seen that the Provost of Fife is Jim Leishman!  That Jim Leishman.  Former manager of Inverness Thistle. 

Can someone no' have a wee word in his shell-like?

[Yngwie]

IF Fife Council have any right to veto the arrangement because it is not in line with the community usage intention for the pitch, that still doesn’t necessarily mean that they would - they would have to decide if they want a load of extra income for absolutely no effort, or whether they are so rich they don’t need it. 

[mazza20]

45 minutes ago, Jack Waddington said:

Karen Gillan must have some Hollywood contacts to make a copycat 'Welcome to Wrexham'

But they already looked at a Scottish club before decided Wrexham, apparently the ceiling is too low in Scotland

[bishbashbosh]

4 hours ago, caley1 said:

This is what an amateur £100k CEO gets u !

what a complete xxxxxxx of a guy that thinks he is better than everyone else . How professional that you can’t even get the basics done first . Morrison and Gardiner looking more like the chuckle brothers with every passing minute . 
wonder what’s next on his list of failures ? 

From the police Scotland website re online abuse………………

The terms ‘retarded’ and ‘spaz’ along with others are unacceptable and should never ever be used. They are hurtful and a form of bullying and discrimination
 

back in the day moderators on here would pick up these things warning the poster to moderate the language at least . 
 

 

Edited May 29 by tm4tj
Photo not meant to be posted. (self moderation always the best))

[caley1]

17 minutes ago, bishbashbosh said:

From the police Scotland website re online abuse………………

The terms ‘retarded’ and ‘spaz’ along with others are unacceptable and should never ever be used. They are hurtful and a form of bullying and discrimination
 

back in the day moderators on here would pick up these things warning the poster to moderate the language at least . 
 

 

Edited wouldn’t want to call Mr Gardiner anything un toward would we

[Scotty]

19 minutes ago, bishbashbosh said:

back in the day moderators on here would pick up these things warning the poster to moderate the language at least . 

and we still would, but we are not on here every second of every day. Thats why we have a report button so site users can alert us to anything that personally offends them and needs to be brought to our attention. No action needed here as the user has edited their own post.