Dingwall pubs denied early opening on Sunday

[WYNESS101]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-22364825

 

[old caley girl]

Interesting that the ordinary stadium bar denied a licence but hospitality keeps theirs. One rule for one then.

[ICTPaisley]

Why is the highlands always so backward and old fashioned when it comes to these things.

[PaderbornCaley]

‘She raised concerns of drunken fans disrupting Church congregations‘

Such a shame. I was looking forward to a few pints in the Mallard before steaming into the nearest Church.

[SMEE]

Why is the highlands always so backward and old fashioned when it comes to these things.

 

Coz those who call the shots are backward and old fashioned?

[davie]

I suppose that Cllr Smith is looking after the interests of her constituents in Ross-shire, which is what she is paid to do. The arguments are a bit off though. Someone is eventually going to have to stop demonising football fans of all colours and realise that we have moved on from the neaderthal days of the seventies and early eighties. The problem then was as much to do with a nations disintergating social fabric as it was with supporting a football team. Of course events like those in Glasgow this week don't help, but Dingwall isn't no mean City and the kick off times are liable to deter all but the most hardy of attendees (for the Celtic game anyway) Given those times, they are hardly likely to have had the opportunity to get tanked up before travelling and its illegal on buses and, as far as I am aware there are no congregations between the car park at the ground and the turnstiles although granted there is a Church in plain sight of the Mallard. There's nothing in between. But it's OK for people to go from that same car park to Hospitality and get served there? So much for Cllr Smith's arguments about not taking business needs into account - just some businesses that an Invergordon Councillor wouldn't want to upset. People aren't going to these games by other means and so need to mix with the "god fearing" public because there's no public transport to speak of that would drop them anywhere but at the ground. I am perplexed by her comments about people being turned away from the ground that concern her, although she maintains that she's not saying people would be drunk before the game. In a fixture (ICT v RC) that has a history of no violence, no antipathy, no mass ejections (we have the figures, just not to hand - I'll post them later) her concerns are pretty badly thought out, because let's face it  drunkenness is about the only thing you are going to get turned away for. Perhaps the most galling point of her determination is the inference that fans of either side, who have been held up as examples of how well behaved derbies can be all year are somehow not fit to mix with the general population. Actually, Maxine they are the general population.

 

Smee is right about people in power who are more reactionary than those they represent. Lobby and challenge them. Make them justify their wooly thinking and if they can't then vote them out. That works.

[Struan94]

Your supposed to be at work not writing your memoirs

[davie]

I get a lunch break young man. Your excuse?

[caley100]

You should send that letter for printing in the Ross Shire journal mun, she needs to know how wrong she eh!

Mind most of these councillors love the opportunity to make a wee speech and puff their chests out even though it usually always shyte.

[KingBeastie]

I suppose that Cllr Smith is looking after the interests of her constituents in Ross-shire, which is what she is paid to do. The arguments are a bit off though. Someone is eventually going to have to stop demonising football fans of all colours and realise that we have moved on from the neaderthal days of the seventies and early eighties. The problem then was as much to do with a nations disintergating social fabric as it was with supporting a football team. Of course events like those in Glasgow this week don't help, but Dingwall isn't no mean City and the kick off times are liable to deter all but the most hardy of attendees (for the Celtic game anyway) Given those times, they are hardly likely to have had the opportunity to get tanked up before travelling and its illegal on buses and, as far as I am aware there are no congregations between the car park at the ground and the turnstiles although granted there is a Church in plain sight of the Mallard. There's nothing in between. But it's OK for people to go from that same car park to Hospitality and get served there? So much for Cllr Smith's arguments about not taking business needs into account - just some businesses that an Invergordon Councillor wouldn't want to upset. People aren't going to these games by other means and so need to mix with the "god fearing" public because there's no public transport to speak of that would drop them anywhere but at the ground. I am perplexed by her comments about people being turned away from the ground that concern her, although she maintains that she's not saying people would be drunk before the game. In a fixture (ICT v RC) that has a history of no violence, no antipathy, no mass ejections (we have the figures, just not to hand - I'll post them later) her concerns are pretty badly thought out, because let's face it  drunkenness is about the only thing you are going to get turned away for. Perhaps the most galling point of her determination is the inference that fans of either side, who have been held up as examples of how well behaved derbies can be all year are somehow not fit to mix with the general population. Actually, Maxine they are the general population.

 

Smee is right about people in power who are more reactionary than those they represent. Lobby and challenge them. Make them justify their wooly thinking and if they can't then vote them out. That works.

I blame Thatcher.

[Kingsmills]

Highland Council. Still acting like it's the late nineteenth century. Embarrassing. We get irked when the central belt stereotype us as backward thinking Teuchters and what happens, some of our number act as stereotypical backward thinking Teuchters.

Edited May 2, 2013 by Kingsmills

[IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER]

Get real folks - it is an incentive to carry on drinking through Saturday nite, a knock on the door of a friendly Sneck hostelry for breakfast, a carry lot fer the bus and oranges,voddie and a syringe.

[tm4tj]

  The Dodgy Arms will be open from midnight

[caley100]

  The Dodgy Arms will be open from midnight

But will the dodgy arms have transport and a sober driver?

[HumbersideDude]

Does Cllr Smith not realise, she is more likely to get more votes from the 000's of football fans, rather than the 50-60 in the Kirk. To those who vote in Cllr Smiths' area, vote her out next time and vote in someone who lives in 21st century!

[+Gringo]

Football has been ruined by stupid kick off times, TV and Sunday games so why not go the whole hog and take our pre-match fun away too....lets all stay at home eh, we'll be safer there!

Edited May 3, 2013 by Gringo
typo's..blah

[IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER]

Football has been ruined by stupid kick off times, TV and Sunday games so why not go the whole hog and our pre-match away too....lets all stay at home eh, we'll be safer there!

 

And get pissshed ?

[The Mantis]

I take it Uncle Roy won't be attending. What about Deek Seethe? Does he normally attend Sunday games?

[Bluesman]

A 12 kick off, live on TV and there was only 2300 at St J for a really crucial late season game. TV timings and TV itself is killing football off anyway. Now its even turning much cherished Saturday afternoon derbies into Sunday brunch time travails. There appears to be no-one on the side of football fans at all, including most of the clowns in charge of the game.

 

One day soon will there be a day when there's no-one in the ground at all just the teams, three 'pundits' and a camera man. 

[+DoofersDad]

If you want a wee drink you'll need to go to church and take communion.  Often ends up in a bit of a sing song as well, I understand.

[IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER]

Don't ferget the prawn cracker

[Bluesman]

Ms Smith sounds like she could do with a few drinks and a day out...

Edited May 2, 2013 by Bluesman

[+Fraz]

Ms Smith sounds like an utter dull boot...

Why are are football fans less important than church goers? Sounds like pishedfitbafanaphobia to me.

[PaderbornCaley]

To be fair to Ms Smith, the last time football and the church mixed, the stewards had a fit!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[KingBeastie]