Ian Black

[Govan Jaggie]

Ian Black is in hot water for illegal betting at his time at ICT.  The game v Motherwell in March 06 is the first one cited by the SFA.  I see he got booked but not sent off that day.  Shame to think that allegedly his cheating could have cost us points.

[SMEE]

I always thought he was shady!

[Caley Mad In Berks]

Never really liked him. Glad we're in a position now where he is not missed from a footballing point of view. If he is shady, I hope he gets his just deserts in the fullness of time.

[Yngwie]

Here's the BBC article, which confirms that the first alleged instance of betting against his own team was whilst at ICT.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23761230

[Renegade]

Maybe that'll explain why Christie had to take him off before he was sent off!

[Proctor]

When the Yankees team threw the World Series in the 1920s they were given a lifetime ban. Ian Black probably deserves the same if he is guilty of this.

[Scotty]

If that is the match in question (Mar 4th 2006) then reading the match report it sounds pretty inconclusive ...... he may have bet against us but doesnt sound like he was trying to influence the game negatively .... Black had a header cleared off the line when it looked like it was in, he was yellow carded in 60 minutes but the ref that day (Stevie Conroy) was very inconsistent, and the only goal in Motherwell's 0-1 victory came from a Foran penalty after Tokely tripped up an opposition player in the box ... a stonewaller that saw Tokes booked when he might legitimately have been ordered off .... Black was not subbed that day

[PaderbornCaley]

[dougiedanger]

Think this will be glossed over.

[Yngwie]

When that game took place we were 6 points and 2 league places above Motherwell. And we had home advantage. And we had only lost 1 of our previous 17 matches. And we had just had a cracking 4-2 win at Tannadice the previous week. Why would anyone expect us to lose? 

 

Take him to the cells. I sentence him to 3 years in the lower leagues.

[tm4tj]

Richie Foran stepped up to net the spot kick and received a yellow card for an over exuberant celebration..........................

[ictchris]

I loved him when he played for us but he is ruining it.

 

I'd be amazed if this doesn't go on more often though.

[PaderbornCaley]

[caleydawson]

im just gonna say what everyone else is thinking he's a genius to keep it going for so long  

[Renegade]

Just seeing there what the outcome were in similar cases, and I see ex-Dundee United player Grant Brebner bet AU$2.48 (probably about £1) against Melbourne Victory winning a match, while he was playing for them.  Strangely he also attempted to cancel it out by betting in favour of them winning or drawing the same Asian Champions League game against Thai side Chonburi FC! 

 

He was banned for four matches and fined about £3,000.  Kevin Muscat and Craig Moore were also fined, but their bets didn't involve their own teams.

 

Swindon Town were also denied promotion once due to them all betting on themselves to win the play-off.

 

Wonder what the outcome will be for Ian Black then if he turns out to be a serial better againster.

Edited August 19, 2013 by Renegade

[Alex MacLeod]

How does someone get caught out doing this sort of thing? I go to bookies and fill a slip and pay my cash. I dont give a name so how did he get caught or who grassed him?

[PaderbornCaley]

How does someone get caught out doing this sort of thing? I go to bookies and fill a slip and pay my cash. I dont give a name so how did he get caught or who grassed him?

 

It will be handy now for Sevco to get him off the wage bill especially with them heading towards liquidation.  Very handy indeed.

[Alex MacLeod]

Just seeing there what the outcome were in similar cases, and I see ex-Dundee United player Grant Brebner bet AU$2.48 (probably about £1) against Melbourne Victory winning a match, while he was playing for them at the time.  Strangely he also attempted to cancel it out by betting in favour of them winning or drawing the same Asian Champions League game against Thai side Chonburi FC! 

 

He was banned for four matches and fined about £3,000.  Kevin Muscat and Craig Moore were also fined, but their bets didn't involve their own teams.

 

Swindon Town were also denied promotion once due to them all betting on themselves to win the play-off.

 

Wonder what the outcome will be for Ian Black then if he turns out to be a serial better againster.

Apparantly he could face fines of up to £1m, be banned from playing for a period or even for good. It is fair to say, however, that he is not accused of match fixing.

 

Without seeming to defend him I wonder if he just used a system of bet hedging where he splits the stake between the three likely results of any game thus limiting any losses.

[draganict]

Let us all listen to the evidence before condemning the lad. From my experience there is hardly a pro or semi pro in the land that does not have a flutter on the fixed odds footie despite a clear FIFA  ban on not betting on any match world-wide.

 

An ex team mate of mine lost the Highland League for blatantly betting on a result. Lets hear the evidence against Blackie is before sending to the gallows.

[RiG]

Never liked Ian Black so i can't say I'm surprised.

[draganict]

Whether we like someone or not is immaterial. Everyone is innocent until they have had a fair hearing to prove their guilt or innocence!

 

Let the due process take place prior to judging anyone.

[Yngwie]

Where's the fun in that?

[RiG]

Just in case it wasn't obvious enough I wasn't being serious in the slightest. I love the guy.

[IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER]

[draganict]

Maybe we can get him back on the cheap!