Kelty/ Is this a joke - merged thread

[Charles Bannerman]

1 hour ago, old caley girl said:

Agree I'm completely ashamed to be a fan of this club at present 

Match/season tickets, travel and subsistence, half time draw tickets, hospitality (when it’s been on), the Sports Bar (when it’s been open), pie shop, merchandise, player sponsorship, shares, programmes, car parking, Centenary Club…. and probably a few more things I haven’t mentioned. 

How much of their own money have the supremely loyal fans of this club spent in following Inverness Caledonian Thistle - some of them for the last 30 years?

And then there’s the kind of expenditure that can’t be quantified in monetary terms - the emotion, commitment, passion and so on that so many people have committed in abundance to this club across three decades.

I can’t possibly include myself as that kind of supporter since my involvement has necessarily been different. However I am experiencing a real challenge at the moment, feeling for those who truly are that kind of fan  - and indeed for these players and the non-playing staff as well - amid rising frustration. Fans and players/employees alike all face a big enough tragedy in the possible disappearance of their club. However alongside that severe injury, they also bear the added insult of the complete lack of regard and the cynical disrespect of the current total wall of silence.

They deserve a whole lot better.

Edited June 11 by Charles Bannerman

[Yngwie]

Nobody has picked up yet on a comment Doran made when talking to the press about his injury/operation, that our Head of Medical, Dan Cluett’s contract with the club ended 2 weeks ago. I presume we are not in a position to renew or replace at the moment.

[+DoofersDad]

No need for a physio if you've got no players 

With every new snippet of information, it looks more and more like the club's finished.  I do so hope that I'm proved wrong and the club and the jobs of those who are totally blameless in this disaster are saved.

[RiG]

8 hours ago, Yngwie said:

Nobody has picked up yet on a comment Doran made when talking to the press about his injury/operation, that our Head of Medical, Dan Cluett’s contract with the club ended 2 weeks ago. I presume we are not in a position to renew or replace at the moment.

The club clearly isn't going to to commit to anything or anyone unless they need to and until this financial shambles is resolved. I think we can all draw our own conclusions as to how bad things are if the club aren't bothering to hand out renewals of any kind to players or staff. 

[STFU]

8 minutes ago, RiG said:

The club clearly isn't going to to commit to anything.

FTFY

[CaleyCiuin]

8 hours ago, Yngwie said:

Nobody has picked up yet on a comment Doran made when talking to the press about his injury/operation, that our Head of Medical, Dan Cluett’s contract with the club ended 2 weeks ago. I presume we are not in a position to renew or replace at the moment.

A couple of new physios were interviewed, but with the expectation they would be living in the central belt due to the team traning in Kelty, that’s how the job was sold to them. Was told that by a medical person connected to the club. 

[RiG]

What a shambles we are.

Fans have no idea what the hell is going on but are being asked to fork out to support the club despite there being no details of season tickets, strips or anything like that. Compare that to pretty much every other team in the country who have had their new tops and season ticket prices out for weeks and are proactively planning for the forthcoming campaign. As a result a large number of supporters have threatened to withhold money they would normally spend supporting the team, allegedly to the tune of £200,000, until they see change in the boardroom.

The Chairman has resigned with immediate effect. The CEO has resigned and is working his notice. The rest of the board are, we assume, doing something but we don't know what. We are teetering on the brink of administration with an insolvency practitioner brought in to advise the club on what to do. 

Something like 4 weeks before the season starts and we have essentially no team. All our rivals are strengthening, getting players signed up and will very soon be starting pre season training. Meanwhile we fool around with the idea of moving our training base half way down the country, don't tell any of the senior or youth players or staff. It then transpires that the deal we did with Kelty Hearts hadn't been run past Fife Council as it turns that they own the ground / training site and not Kelty, something we never bothered to check on. We then decide to end the agreement to train in Kelty a few days later except we apparently don't tell Kelty Hearts about it who find out that we have changed our minds when they read about it in newspapers.

We haven't heard anything from the manager who seems to have gone into hiding for the last month. We assume he is staying on but there's never been any official confirmation about what he is doing since relegation though there has been mention of a pay cut with the drop down the divisions. 

Players have been completely sidelined by the club with many speaking out to say they've had no contact since relegation and, as they are out of contract, assume that they won't be an ICT player any more. In the case of one player they have had important, potentially career saving surgery, postponed twice by the club. The player was advised by a director, ironically a retired knee surgeon, to essentially "run off" the injury. The costs for the operation are now being crowdfunded by a former team mate to help pay for it. In a piece of good news, it looks like the crowdfunder will reach its target in less than a day.

The only communication we have had from the club are two tin eared statements, one announcing the ill fated Kelty move, the other saying that we aren't moving to Kelty but that we are basically f'cked anyway so YOLO. Nothing about the Chairman resigning and nothing about players or staff leaving the club.

Anything I have missed from this basket case of a football club?

Edited June 12 by RiG

[Satan]

3 minutes ago, RiG said:

What a shambles we are.

Fans have no idea what the hell is going on but are being asked to fork out to support the club despite there being no details of season tickets, strips or anything like that. Compare that to pretty much every other team in the country who have had their new tops and season ticket prices out for weeks and are proactively planning for the forthcoming campaign. As a result a large number of supporters have threatened to withhold money they would normally spend supporting the team, allegedly to the tune of £200,000, until they see change in the boardroom.

The Chairman has resigned with immediate effect. The CEO has resigned and is working his notice. The rest of the board are, we assume, doing something but we don't know what. We are teetering on the brink of administration with an insolvency practitioner brought in to advise the club on what to do. 

Something like 4 weeks before the season starts and we have essentially no team. All our rivals are strengthening, getting players signed up and will very soon be starting pre season training. Meanwhile we fool around with the idea of moving our training base half way down the country, don't tell any of the senior or youth players or staff. It then transpires that the deal we did with Kelty Hearts hadn't been run past Fife Council as it turns that they own the ground / training site and not Kelty, something we never bothered to check on. We then decide to end the agreement to train in Kelty a few days later except we apparently don't tell Kelty Hearts about it who find out that we have changed our minds when they read about it in newspapers.

We haven't heard anything from the manager who seems to have gone into hiding for the last month. We assume he is staying on but there's never been any official confirmation about what he is doing since relegation though there has been mention of a pay cut with the drop down the divisions. 

Players have been completely sidelined by the club with many speaking out to say they've had no contact since relegation and, as they are out of contract, assume that they won't be an ICT player any more. In the case of one player they have had important, potentially career saving surgery, postponed twice by the club and is now being crowdfunded by a former team mate to help pay for it. In a piece of good news, it looks like the crowdfunder will reach its target in less than a day.

The only communication we have had from the club are two tin eared statements, one announcing the ill fated Kelty move, the other saying that we aren't moving to Kelty but that we are basically f'cked anyway so YOLO. Nothing about the Chairman resigning and nothing about players or staff leaving the club.

Anything I have missed from this basket case of a football club?

The pies.

[+DoofersDad]

It’s a bit like a mirror image of Monty Python’s “what have the Romans ever done for us” sketch. No prizes for guessing who Biggus Dickus is!

[Leaky Blinder]

1 hour ago, RiG said:

What a shambles we are.

Fans have no idea what the hell is going on but are being asked to fork out to support the club despite there being no details of season tickets, strips or anything like that. Compare that to pretty much every other team in the country who have had their new tops and season ticket prices out for weeks and are proactively planning for the forthcoming campaign. As a result a large number of supporters have threatened to withhold money they would normally spend supporting the team, allegedly to the tune of £200,000, until they see change in the boardroom.

The Chairman has resigned with immediate effect. The CEO has resigned and is working his notice. The rest of the board are, we assume, doing something but we don't know what. We are teetering on the brink of administration with an insolvency practitioner brought in to advise the club on what to do. 

Something like 4 weeks before the season starts and we have essentially no team. All our rivals are strengthening, getting players signed up and will very soon be starting pre season training. Meanwhile we fool around with the idea of moving our training base half way down the country, don't tell any of the senior or youth players or staff. It then transpires that the deal we did with Kelty Hearts hadn't been run past Fife Council as it turns that they own the ground / training site and not Kelty, something we never bothered to check on. We then decide to end the agreement to train in Kelty a few days later except we apparently don't tell Kelty Hearts about it who find out that we have changed our minds when they read about it in newspapers.

We haven't heard anything from the manager who seems to have gone into hiding for the last month. We assume he is staying on but there's never been any official confirmation about what he is doing since relegation though there has been mention of a pay cut with the drop down the divisions. 

Players have been completely sidelined by the club with many speaking out to say they've had no contact since relegation and, as they are out of contract, assume that they won't be an ICT player any more. In the case of one player they have had important, potentially career saving surgery, postponed twice by the club and is now being crowdfunded by a former team mate to help pay for it. In a piece of good news, it looks like the crowdfunder will reach its target in less than a day.

The only communication we have had from the club are two tin eared statements, one announcing the ill fated Kelty move, the other saying that we aren't moving to Kelty but that we are basically f'cked anyway so YOLO. Nothing about the Chairman resigning and nothing about players or staff leaving the club.

Anything I have missed from this basket case of a football club?

When you put it like that it will be a minor miracle if we can complete next season on -15 points 

[CaleyCanary]

Will be a minor miracle if we manage to put a team on the park for the opening game of the season 

[Jack Waddington]

All I can imagine is that we'd probably be sound as a pound right now, but instead Gardiner is being a stubborn whatnot and is choosing to raze the club to the ground to prove a point

[CELTIC1CALEY3]

In the beginning of Gardiner's life at the Club 9 April 2019

Inverness Caledonian Thistle is delighted to announce the appointment of a prominent figure in Scottish football administration as its new Chief Executive Officer. 

https://ictfc.com/scot-gardiner-appointed-new-ceo/#:~:text=Inverness Caledonian Thistle is delighted,its new Chief Executive Officer.

3 October 2019 - 'We have no debt now, no soft loans any more, no bank debt and we own the stadium.'

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4792055/inverness-appeal-shareholders-away-administration-threat/

Nearly five years later.....

[Achfary]

We now know who the members of the SPFL Board will be, and who will call the shots if we fall foul of rules & regs, after yesterday's election:

• Michael Nicholson (Celtic), a sports law specialist and former solicitor 
• Malcolm McPherson (Hibs), a corporate lawyer 
• James MacDonald (Ross County), Director of Global Energy Group (and etc. etc.)
• Paul Hetherington (Airdrieonians), Property Asset Owner/ Businessman 
• Graeme Mathie (Ayr United), ex-player, ex-Hibs sporting director, 
• Andy Allan (Alloa Athletic), chartered accountant
• Allan Maitland (Clyde FC), former manager of Clyde, and Hamilton and Alloa 

In addition to the regular members:

• Neil Doncaster (SPFL chief executive) 
• Murdoch MacLennan (Chairman), media exec., former CEO at The Telegraph, 
• Karyn McCluskey (Independent non-executive director)

If administration happens, it will be the ones above who can make or break whether SPFL 25/26 has ICT in it (assuming 24/25 happens...).

[Leaky Blinder]

15 minutes ago, Jack Waddington said:

All I can imagine is that we'd probably be sound as a pound right now, but instead Gardiner is being a stubborn whatnot and is choosing to raze the club to the ground to prove a point

Aye he's probably deep in his boardroom bunker poisoning his alsatian & wishing he had a girlfriend called Ivy Brown. 

[+snorbens_caleyman]

11 hours ago, Leaky Blinder said:

Perhaps there will be a thread/poll after tomorrow looking for name suggestions ! 

I would be pleased to see the resurrection of the Citadel name and maroon strip.  The stadium - assuming a new team could play there  - is close to where the Citadel ground was.

Time to lay to rest the divisive and dishonoured Caledonian Thistle name?

[Achfary]

28 minutes ago, snorbens_caleyman said:

I would be pleased to see the resurrection of the Citadel name and maroon strip.  The stadium - assuming a new team could play there  - is close to where the Citadel ground was.

Time to lay to rest the divisive and dishonoured Caledonian Thistle name?

That plan won't do at all, no sir. 

Ross (and the directors) is likely banking on the club limping on with another consortium, with the proviso  they service his 1.5m debt.  

Or in a CVA, we could be going back to pre-2018 and paying him an annual stadium rent of £205,000 (or whatever 2024 prices would be) and signing over the lease of the car parks so he can sub-lease it to Statkraft for £300,000 per year (or whatever discount they give on the ransom they tried to charge our Norwegian friends). Or perhaps get the administrator to package it up to someone else and give him hard cash?  

Of course, as a fan, he wouldn't sink the club because he spent like a Babylonian King on crap, but wants the fans to pay for that...

Edited June 12 by Achfary
to clarify position

[The Mantis]

3 hours ago, DoofersDad said:

It’s a bit like a mirror image of Monty Python’s “what have the Romans ever done for us” sketch. No prizes for guessing who Biggus Dickus is!

Not Michael Gardyne by all accounts...

[CELTIC1CALEY3]

Not forgetting the accumulation of small fines for non submission of accounts (so far less than one month)

Length of period (measured from the date the accounts are due)	Penalty for a private company or LLP
Not more than 1 month	£150

 

[Charles Bannerman]

So, give or take an apostrophe, does my old Dalneigh schoolmate and former player of this parish Brian Mcbey, now in South Africa, know something about a possible rescue bid?

[robbylad]

We're all on tenterhooks here waiting for some news. Is there something specific I've missed or is 12/6 some arbitrary date that has been suggested? Whatever it is, please tell us something....anything!!!

[caley100]

Wee birdie tells me there was a meeting earlier and announcement imminent,  Administration avoided maybe?

[IBM]

11 minutes ago, caley100 said:

Wee birdie tells me there was a meeting earlier and announcement imminent,  Administration avoided maybe?

We are all waiting patiently with our fingers crossed  

[KirkieRobRoy]

13 hours ago, RiG said:

What a shambles we are.

Fans have no idea what the hell is going on but are being asked to fork out to support the club despite there being no details of season tickets, strips or anything like that. Compare that to pretty much every other team in the country who have had their new tops and season ticket prices out for weeks and are proactively planning for the forthcoming campaign. As a result a large number of supporters have threatened to withhold money they would normally spend supporting the team, allegedly to the tune of £200,000, until they see change in the boardroom.

The Chairman has resigned with immediate effect. The CEO has resigned and is working his notice. The rest of the board are, we assume, doing something but we don't know what. We are teetering on the brink of administration with an insolvency practitioner brought in to advise the club on what to do. 

Something like 4 weeks before the season starts and we have essentially no team. All our rivals are strengthening, getting players signed up and will very soon be starting pre season training. Meanwhile we fool around with the idea of moving our training base half way down the country, don't tell any of the senior or youth players or staff. It then transpires that the deal we did with Kelty Hearts hadn't been run past Fife Council as it turns that they own the ground / training site and not Kelty, something we never bothered to check on. We then decide to end the agreement to train in Kelty a few days later except we apparently don't tell Kelty Hearts about it who find out that we have changed our minds when they read about it in newspapers.

We haven't heard anything from the manager who seems to have gone into hiding for the last month. We assume he is staying on but there's never been any official confirmation about what he is doing since relegation though there has been mention of a pay cut with the drop down the divisions. 

Players have been completely sidelined by the club with many speaking out to say they've had no contact since relegation and, as they are out of contract, assume that they won't be an ICT player any more. In the case of one player they have had important, potentially career saving surgery, postponed twice by the club. The player was advised by a director, ironically a retired knee surgeon, to essentially "run off" the injury. The costs for the operation are now being crowdfunded by a former team mate to help pay for it. In a piece of good news, it looks like the crowdfunder will reach its target in less than a day.

The only communication we have had from the club are two tin eared statements, one announcing the ill fated Kelty move, the other saying that we aren't moving to Kelty but that we are basically f'cked anyway so YOLO. Nothing about the Chairman resigning and nothing about players or staff leaving the club.

Anything I have missed from this basket case of a football club?

Exceptionally well-put. Send a copy to the papers and news websites.

[Rebus1746]

Paul Chalk from the P&J stating no big news expected tonight from the club. What a surprise.